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46N2
Feb 11, 2005 16:25:45 GMT -5
Post by voiceofgod on Feb 11, 2005 16:25:45 GMT -5
Ok this is one of my favorite songs. I undestand most of it but what does the phrase "Fort six and 2 ahead of me" mean? I've thought about it long and hard, but I can't wrap my brain around it. I was hoping some of the more elite out there could clue me in....... 
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46N2
Feb 11, 2005 16:49:45 GMT -5
Post by Halo on Feb 11, 2005 16:49:45 GMT -5
Her is what I believe it has something to do with:
The major underlying principles relate to chromosomes and Jungian theory. Some of the ideas behind this song are based on the teachings of Drunvalo Melchizadek. Here's a snip of an interview with him (Leading Edge, 12/95): "There are three totally different kinds of humans on the Earth, meaning that they perceive the One reality in three different ways, interpreted differently. The first kind of human has a chromosome composition of 42+2. They comprise a unity consciousness that does not see anything outside themselves as being separate from themselves. To them, there is only one energy - one life, one beingness that moves everywhere. Anything happening anywhere is within them, as well. They are like cells in the body. They are all connected to a single consciousness that moves through all of them. These are the aboriginals in Australia. There might be a few African tribes left like this. Then, there is our level, comprising 44+2 chromosomes. We are a disharmonic level of consciousness that is used as a steppingstone from the 42+2 level to the next level, 46+2...These two additional chromosomes change everything." According to Melchezedek, our planet is covered with geometrically constructed 'morpho genetic grids'. These grids extend from about 60 feet under the Earth's surface to about 60 miles above the Earth, arranged in geometric patterns (see 'Sacred Geometry'). Each species has its own grid, which supports life, and connects the consciousness of its particular species. Before any species can come into existence or make an evolutionary step, a new grid must be completed. When a species becomes extinct, that particular species' grid dissolves. A new grid was completed in 1989 - the 'christ-consciousness' grid. This grid will allow humans to evolve into our next version. We'll develop two additional chromosomes (which are really 'geometrical images' designed to resonate with our specific grid) for a total or 46 + 2. The main change will be a shift to the "unity consciousness". Every cell in your body has its own consciousness and memory. You, the higher being that occupies your body, make the millions of different consciousnesses in your body work together as one being. How does this relate to this grid? Think of yourself as a cell and the grid as the higher being. We will still have individual consciousness, but will be united in the form of a higher being in order to work as one entity."
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46N2
Feb 12, 2005 13:52:04 GMT -5
Post by moneyisevil on Feb 12, 2005 13:52:04 GMT -5
<<applause>>
whew..thought i was gonna have to spew the 46&2 shiznit
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46N2
Feb 13, 2005 2:17:19 GMT -5
Post by Halo on Feb 13, 2005 2:17:19 GMT -5
Yea, just take a chill evil money dude. I am in da houze and down with the 46n2 shizznit. 
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46N2
Mar 7, 2005 20:53:24 GMT -5
Post by Bastardometer on Mar 7, 2005 20:53:24 GMT -5
This is on the same "wave" as H.
Forty-Six & 2 makes many people’s list as one of the greatest rock epics of all time and really is one of the pivotal tracks on the album, being extremely focused and summary of the themes of change and rebirth that make up Ænima. While it is perhaps one of the most concise and punchy tracks on the album, it is also one of the most densely layered, making reference to several schools of thought on life, consciousness, humanity, change and personal evolution. The basic premise is of positive change or personal transformation. All the usual themes of self analysis and discovery are here; in fact, Forty Six & 2 really marks a point that begins quite a thematic and positive journey that continues into the bands next album, Lateralus.To allow easy navigation through the themes in the song, it is best to briefly explain some the concepts that it makes reference to, and the additional concept of temporary belief systems. In their 1994 newsletter, the band recommended a book by Bob Frissell entitled ‘Nothing In This Book Is True, But Its Exactly How Things Are’, which explains, the basic concepts behind sacred geometry including the Golden Ratio, Phi. Beyond the ratio (referred to by some as the Flower of Life), Frissell explains that in addition to our individual consciousness, we have a collective, human consciousness – proposing that as well as individuals, we are a part of, and intrinsically connected to the greater human organism and beyond that, all living things. The idea of collective consciousness isn’t new, but Frissell’s proposal of how we might realise it is the key to the title, and psychologist Carl Jung’s exploration of it leads us to the next branch of meaning and explains the references to ‘my shadow’. In his book, Frissell proposes that humans must evolve to take advantage of their collective consciousness. An integral part of that evolution is the addition of two new chromosomes to our genetic construct. Modern humans make use of 22 normal chromosomal pairs, with 2 sex chromosomes (44 & 2), so the next evolutionary jump ought to take us to 46 & 2. Don’t be concerned if you find yourself feeling sceptical, it took me a long time to accept this as the explanation for such an intelligent band’s song. In fact, I rejected it flatly until introduced to the notion of temporary belief systems, which I’ll explain shortly; but first it is best to deal with the Jungian concepts in the song. Carl Jung began his career in psychology as an understudy to Freud, but who took a much more interesting path of research into the origins and mysteries of self through studies of various cultures, lucid dreaming and personal exploration. The Jungian concepts of Anima and Shadow are helpful in understanding Forty-Six and 2 (and much of Tool’s other work). Anima/Animus (pronounced On-ee-mah)In Jungian psychology, the anima refers to personality traits regarded as feminine that are often repressed into the unconscious of males, while the animus refers to traits regarded as masculine that are often repressed into the unconsciousness of females. Although suppressed from conscious awareness, the anima/animus influences our behaviour in powerful ways. In most individuals, it is projected onto people of the opposite sex and accounts for the experience of falling in love with someone we hardly know. As the unconscious pole of the self, the counter-ego represented by the anima/animus can also be a guide to one’s own unconscious realm. It is often experienced as the guiding female (if you’re male) or male (if you’re female) presence in dreams.
The Shadow In Carl Jung’s personality theory, the ego represents the individual’s sense of personal self. The sense of personal identity is purchased, however, at the expense of certain tendencies that are rejected as ‘not-self’. According to Jung, these rejected traits come together as a kind of unconscious ‘counter-ego’ which he termed the shadow. We may become unduly anxious or irritated when in an environment or around a person that in some way reminds us of repressed aspects of our self. If a person has rejected his or her own sex drive, for example, that person may feel irrational fear or anger around an overtly sexual individual. The shadow may appear as a person in one’s dreams, usually as an individual of the same sex. Of all the archetypes, the shadow is the most powerful and potentially the most dangerous. It represents everything about ourselves that we fear and despise. Let’s return to Frissell’s book, and chromosomal theory (which, it should be noted, is expanded from Drunvalo Melchizadek’s sacred geometry theories). If you were sceptical about the talk of human evolution through pronounced genetic change, then exhale now. Basic research into chromosomal development shows that more doesn’t equate to better, or more highly evolved – some primates already have 46 & 2 chromosomes, rabbits have almost 100. Frissell’s theory is fundamentally flawed. So why make use of it? Although Frissell’s ideas about human development are wrong, exploring them for a little while as though they aren’t gives us an opportunity to see things differently, to consider things from a new angle, and perhaps learn something we would otherwise miss, and in that way his ideas are still valuable. In the song, 46 & 2 provides a tight metaphor for discovery, progression and evolution. The notion of discovery though temporary belief systems reflects Tool’s advice of open-mindedness.
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46N2
Mar 8, 2005 0:16:18 GMT -5
Post by Halo on Mar 8, 2005 0:16:18 GMT -5
Very good read!
Thanks bastard!
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46N2
Mar 8, 2005 1:08:12 GMT -5
Post by Bastardometer on Mar 8, 2005 1:08:12 GMT -5
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46N2
Mar 8, 2005 11:32:53 GMT -5
Post by voiceofgod on Mar 8, 2005 11:32:53 GMT -5
Well know I can go out into the world and any dumbass who asks me what it means, I can tell 'em and feel smart! Thanks gang! Now I get it. ;D
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46N2
Mar 8, 2005 15:31:48 GMT -5
Post by lilacJ on Mar 8, 2005 15:31:48 GMT -5
Fabulous Bastard! I'm well impressed, and am almost half way through my second Jung book 'Modern Man in Search of a Soul'.... I also have access to Frissells book, and I will definitely give that a read sometime soon! ;D Thanks for sharing this with us! Much appreciated fellow Libran! 
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46N2
Mar 8, 2005 15:42:05 GMT -5
Post by Bastardometer on Mar 8, 2005 15:42:05 GMT -5
Glad you enjoyed it Much appreciated fellow Libran!  Sombody's paying attention 
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46N2
Mar 8, 2005 15:46:52 GMT -5
Post by lilacJ on Mar 8, 2005 15:46:52 GMT -5
Glad you enjoyed it Sombody's paying attention  More than you know!  In fact I have Fissells book right next to me and am about to dive into the first page..... ;D
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46N2
May 13, 2005 10:32:38 GMT -5
Post by Drumdude1167 on May 13, 2005 10:32:38 GMT -5
Her is what I believe it has something to do with: The major underlying principles relate to chromosomes and Jungian theory. Some of the ideas behind this song are based on the teachings of Drunvalo Melchizadek. Here's a snip of an interview with him (Leading Edge, 12/95): "There are three totally different kinds of humans on the Earth, meaning that they perceive the One reality in three different ways, interpreted differently. The first kind of human has a chromosome composition of 42+2. They comprise a unity consciousness that does not see anything outside themselves as being separate from themselves. To them, there is only one energy - one life, one beingness that moves everywhere. Anything happening anywhere is within them, as well. They are like cells in the body. They are all connected to a single consciousness that moves through all of them. These are the aboriginals in Australia. There might be a few African tribes left like this. Then, there is our level, comprising 44+2 chromosomes. We are a disharmonic level of consciousness that is used as a steppingstone from the 42+2 level to the next level, 46+2...These two additional chromosomes change everything." According to Melchezedek, our planet is covered with geometrically constructed 'morpho genetic grids'. These grids extend from about 60 feet under the Earth's surface to about 60 miles above the Earth, arranged in geometric patterns (see 'Sacred Geometry'). Each species has its own grid, which supports life, and connects the consciousness of its particular species. Before any species can come into existence or make an evolutionary step, a new grid must be completed. When a species becomes extinct, that particular species' grid dissolves. A new grid was completed in 1989 - the 'christ-consciousness' grid. This grid will allow humans to evolve into our next version. We'll develop two additional chromosomes (which are really 'geometrical images' designed to resonate with our specific grid) for a total or 46 + 2. The main change will be a shift to the "unity consciousness". Every cell in your body has its own consciousness and memory. You, the higher being that occupies your body, make the millions of different consciousnesses in your body work together as one being. How does this relate to this grid? Think of yourself as a cell and the grid as the higher being. We will still have individual consciousness, but will be united in the form of a higher being in order to work as one entity." i too have read something along the lines of this....This is the basis for evolution, as he says stepping through my shadow, comming out the other side...Meaning hes going to be changing, 46 and 2 just ahead of me.... I love these lyrics... this is my ultimately favorite song by tool
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46N2
Jul 24, 2005 17:52:17 GMT -5
Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 24, 2005 17:52:17 GMT -5
I love reading this post. I think ill finaly get this book "Nothing In This Book Is True, But Its Exactly How Things Are"
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46N2
Jun 23, 2006 21:15:35 GMT -5
Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jun 23, 2006 21:15:35 GMT -5
im back and have read this post for like the 11th time still loving it... still havent bought that fucking book 
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46N2
Jul 1, 2006 12:59:32 GMT -5
Post by carljungrob on Jul 1, 2006 12:59:32 GMT -5
Hey I was a member a while ago. Where has everyone went? IS halo still around? The page as seemed to die off. Im sad.
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