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Post by SparrowsSoliloquy on Apr 25, 2005 11:55:57 GMT -5
Have too much sugar this morning Brit? You forgot: When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie..thats amore.......
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Post by britany on Apr 25, 2005 13:41:04 GMT -5
Oh well ya i forgot that part...la la la la la
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Post by moneyisevil on Apr 25, 2005 17:57:41 GMT -5
why cant we sleep forever
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Post by SparrowsSoliloquy on Apr 25, 2005 18:45:42 GMT -5
..Maybe we are asleep when we are awake and awake when we are asleep....which would explain why the world is a nutty place to be in ..jk:)...there will be a time when the physical body gives out..and thus our physical bodies die..however, I have always wondered when people explain there Near Death Experiences they explain anything and everything that is going on while they are layng- dead on a hospital bed...long after they are pronounced dead they see and hear these things..and if and when they are resucitated they recount back everything.. what people said, what people were wearing- what somebody was yelling while they were running down the hall..even what people are thinking...all while being a code blue and flat line .....some people say they see a white light and scientists say that it could be the brain firing off its last messages , thus giving the illusion of the white light.. which would explain why almost everybody all over the world sees the same thing- it makes me think though, that if people can recount things back after being dead and state that they were outside their body..and thinking thoughts- and even hearing the thoughts of others around them that perhaps our thoughts arent products of our brains.. but of our inner spirit mind ..if the brain is pronounced dead how is it possible then to still think thoughts.. unless our thoughts are not part of our brain at all...I dont know.. Im rambling..okay Ill shut up...
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Post by moneyisevil on Apr 26, 2005 14:37:10 GMT -5
our thoughts are language...which are brains are CONDITIONED to use to try and make sense of the choas around us....
if we dont think....we experience life as animals do...they dont think they just react.....
i dunno what im trying to say...sorry
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Post by Nessie on Apr 26, 2005 16:08:22 GMT -5
I have to disagree with you...I think animals think too, they have to. But we are more able to oppress our human drives, they are very driven.
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Post by moneyisevil on Apr 26, 2005 16:37:37 GMT -5
aninmals react instintivley....
a snake doesnt say "oh im hungry lets go eat a mouse.."
thinking and behavior is all nueral impulses...our brains understand at a basic level only electrical signlas....
look at how the 'human' brain functions....everything is broken down and transduction turns everything into electrical signals so our brain can understand what is going on....transduction occurs with vision, hearing, taste, touch, and smell.....
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Post by Nessie on Apr 26, 2005 18:41:42 GMT -5
don't you think that neural impulses even fire in a snake's brain? Every being with a brain (and every being has a brain in fact) is thinking.
Depends on how you define thinking...I would say even reacting with insticts is some sort of thinking, although not consciously.
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Post by roving_eye on Apr 26, 2005 19:37:28 GMT -5
i think death is just a transition to another state, so yeah i would say i believe we are eternal souls. each lifetime as a form of a learning tool to further our spiritual selves in the next lifetime.
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Post by Halo on Apr 26, 2005 19:41:27 GMT -5
I don't think animals just react. Of course, like humans, some are dumber than others ( but I think most all animals can and do assess some situations before simply reacting. Like when lions hunts for food. They do no just react and jump on anything. They stalk, sit back, assess the situation, decide when is the right time to attack. It may not be "thinking" in the terms we think of using our brains, and it could just be chalked up to instinct, but I do believe there is some kind of "thought" involved, even if it is primitive thought.
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Post by alienation on Apr 26, 2005 22:01:45 GMT -5
Every being with a brain (and every being has a brain in fact) is thinking. think v. thought, (thôt) think·ing, thinks v. tr. 1. To have or formulate in the mind. 2. To reason about or reflect on; ponder 3. To decide by reasoning, reflection, or pondering 4. To judge or regard; look upon 5. To believe; suppose 6. To expect; hope 7. To intend 8. To call to mind; remember 9. To visualize; imagine 10. To devise or evolve; invent 11. To bring into a given condition by mental preoccupation 12. To concentrate It is so hard to discuss philosophical topics like this because I don't know if we are all meaning the same things. What to you mean 'to think' Nessie? And what do you consider a brain? Does a bundle of neurons count? Would you consider a jellyfish a being? And while we're on that line..... be·ing ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bng) n. 1. The state or quality of having existence. 2. Something, such as an object, an idea, or a symbol, that exists, is thought to exist, or is represented as existing. 3. The totality of all things that exist. 4. A person 5. All the qualities constituting one that exists; the essence. 6. One's basic or essential nature; personality You'll have to clarify what you mean by being. Oh, god. Who got us started on existentialism?
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Post by Halo on Apr 26, 2005 23:29:41 GMT -5
GG Alien! This is just going to get better and better!
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Post by Nessie on Apr 27, 2005 8:33:10 GMT -5
It is so hard to discuss philosophical topics like this because I don't know if we are all meaning the same things. What to you mean 'to think' Nessie? And what do you consider a brain? Does a bundle of neurons count? Would you consider a jellyfish a being? And while we're on that line..... Thought or thinking is a mental process which allows beings to model the world, and so to deal with it effectively according to their goals, plans, ends and desires. Concepts akin to thought are sentience, consciousness, idea, and imagination. Thinking involves manipulation of information, as when we form concepts, engage in problem solving, reason and make decisions. Thinking is a higher cognitive function and the analysis of thinking processes is part of cognitive psychology. So I guess the definition of to think is done by that. And now a being: A being, in the most general sense, is anything that is alive. Therefore-->a jellyfish is in fact a being, alienation! Although only vertebrates have a brain, even every single cell has it's genetic program that involves routines for life processes. That means that cells do have some sort of "intelligence", which is the basis for decisions. And decisions involve a thinking process. What you can definitely not deny is the fact that beings with brain (--> vertebrates) have the possibility to think. And not only human beings do belong to the vertebrates, also quite a lot of animals. To sum up ( ) the general statement of moneyisevil: "animals...they dont think they just react....." is not right!
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Post by Halo on Apr 27, 2005 8:59:53 GMT -5
Great post Nellie!
Thanks.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jun 1, 2005 5:31:12 GMT -5
Holy shit thats deep all that shit about altered states of mind due to death and that jazz
any who immortality the population will get big but there will always be a way around that polution will also double, quadruple so on but we will advance once again occupy other plannets and find new ways plus suecide rate will go up cuz lets face it no one wants to live forever if u never died what would be your purpose in life u would jsut get sick of it cuz then you wouldnt achive your goals you could procrastinate for eturnity its just bull shit but any who
i have a fear of death beacause i cant control it and dont know what it will bring so i just live every second liek its my last and i know thats a hard thing to back up but i actualy do....
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