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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jun 23, 2005 17:44:50 GMT -5
i was talking to this preist guy by accedent on yahoo one day and he commented are you a satanist and i was like sure you can lable me that i guess and he goes thats cool.... im like huh areyou a satanist and he goes no im a youth preist for like some christian church im like oh ok. *whispers: this is awequard.(sp?) i thought i might share that with u i was quite confused by that seeing as we are enemys. i then explained to him that i think that satan is a being and i have a friendly relationshit with him and he stoped talking . dunno wether that was on purpose or not but any who//... AVE SATANAS>> \m/ hahaha:P
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Post by Halo on Jun 23, 2005 21:21:11 GMT -5
i was talking to this preist guy by accedent on yahoo one day and he commented are you a satanist and i was like sure you can lable me that i guess and he goes thats cool.... im like huh areyou a satanist and he goes no im a youth preist for like some christian church im like oh ok. *whispers: this is awequard.(sp?) i thought i might share that with u i was quite confused by that seeing as we are enemys.i then explained to him that i think that satan is a being and i have a friendly relationshit with him and he stoped talking . dunno wether that was on purpose or not but any who//... AVE SATANAS>> \m/ hahaha:P Why would you have to be enemies?
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Post by ethernal on Jul 13, 2005 20:45:21 GMT -5
I have really enjoyed this thread alot, I love to see peoples view on religion. I have my own beleifs. I belive that beyond the body, beyond mind, and beyond the soul there is another force. There is something other then life, maybe death, maybe god, but inside we know all the answers to every question, we all know what we are, we know why we are here. It is all a matter of discovering it and discovering hidden parts. Religion is nothing these days. You watch t.v and you see all the money hungary preachers tell us how to live, telling us to send money, and yet they act so abusive half the time to their own families. They tell us how we should all spend money, and we watch everyday as more and more children are raped. Why dedicate your life and spirit to something that everyday becomes less and less truthfull? So many people are brainwashed, so many taken by desire and false hope. I guess it all can't be to bad because it does give hope.... but I think everyone should have a chance to see what is going on. So much death for religion, Hitler is a good example, his beleifs caused major death. The war in Iraq, we fight to liberate them or whatever Bush would like to use to make him seem like less of an ass. They fight us bcause they beleive it is gods will. I really think that no matter what you belive in there is always more violence and greed then anything.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 13, 2005 20:59:18 GMT -5
Thats very up lifting. your comments are few and far between but when u speak u really make it mean something special thanks for the imput. u have a great point of view IMO. and about the enemy thing umm satanism is the oposing force to christianity... isnt it? they are made to hate us and fear us we are the reason that they cling so closely to their god because we are "evil".
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Post by Halo on Jul 13, 2005 22:14:55 GMT -5
Well, personally I don't see why people of different religions or people who don't believe in any religion have to be enemies.
I'm certainly not going to hate someone and assume they are my enemy simply because they believe in God and/or are a part of an organized religion. I judge people on the person that they are.
And also, satanism I don't think you can consider the opposing force to christianity. People assume satanism is worshipping the devil. However, satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes.
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Post by ethernal on Jul 13, 2005 23:43:30 GMT -5
Halo is correct about satanism. Its not all devil worshiping at all, it has to do with certain rituals to boost spiritual power and some belive they actualy can obtain power by doing practices. I think the main reason it is labeld as satanism is basicaly your calling for "evil" practices.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 13, 2005 23:52:37 GMT -5
well in the religion that i follow *i say that loosly* we look to father for advice and help in every day aspects its like a security blanket with an information desk in some ways. but the purpose of the religion is to give us humans the information that was said to have been distroyed lost misplaced over the years. To eventualy bring us our selves to god head. thats the way i see it but im still young and learning.
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Post by ethernal on Jul 14, 2005 22:34:43 GMT -5
That sounds interesting, there are many many forms of relegion and each branch off into there own seperate things. How exactly do you know the information isnt fake? Or that its not just another way to controll people? Im not trying to bring it down or anything like that, im just curious, what do you expect to do with all the information? What will you gain and loose?
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Post by Halo on Jul 15, 2005 16:54:55 GMT -5
well in the religion that i follow *i say that loosly* we look to father for advice and help in every day aspects its like a security blanket with an information desk in some ways. but the purpose of the religion is to give us humans the information that was said to have been distroyed lost misplaced over the years. To eventualy bring us our selves to god head. thats the way i see it but im still young and learning. What religion is this? Who is the "father"? If you are talking about satanism, that's a branch I've certainly never heard of.
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Post by ethernal on Jul 15, 2005 19:44:13 GMT -5
Heh, I agree, honestly I think there is alot more then your mentioning if this is satanizm. Or maybe there is more to it then you know.
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Post by NeonTool on Jul 17, 2005 5:01:38 GMT -5
I don't have any religious beliefs, though I consider myself a very spiritual person. Some might call me an agnostic, though I don't know if that's the correct designation. I don't have anything against religion, as long as people accept one another and don't try to impose it on others, either by force or not. I think the main reason why I don't follow one, is that I would feel somewhat limited. I like to discover myself, to do what I want, to experience things freely, and not to follow strict rules or lines of thought. Of course, those rules might not be such a hassle for many people, but for me it would be. Actually that's one thing that intrigues me sometimes. For example, that people go to church to pray. Why can't they pray at home? Isn't god supposed to be everywhere? And when I go to a wedding, I see a lot of things made out of gold, all very pretty and nifty, isn't that the exact opposite of what are supposedly the pillars of christianity? I'm talking about christianity, because it's the one I'm most familiar with, but it could apply to many others. One of the things that also "bothers" me is the attitude towards sex and all things that derive from it. It's just old-fashion. No sex until marriage? Why? Is it so sinful? Is pleasure a sin? If sex is supposed to be only a tool for procriation, then women might as well get pregnant with only a kiss or something. If we get pleasure from sex, it's because it's something natural, and not a sin. Then there's many other silly things like their non-support of any kind of contraceptives, or that abortion is against nature, without even caring about what others think of it. They brag about being open and understanding, but they only drown in their own self-consciousness. There's always hope for a change though, and I have some friends who are religious, but not in a blind way. They believe in god and love him, but they don't let all those sets of rules to blind them, they still are objective and I can talk with them about it naturally and without any sort of conflict. Anyway, religion, veeeeery long subject
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 17, 2005 18:10:03 GMT -5
What religion is this? Who is the "father"? If you are talking about satanism, that's a branch I've certainly never heard of. Spiritual Satanism (form of Traditional Satanism... "How exactly do you know the information isn't fake? Or that its not just another way to control people? I'm not trying to bring it down or anything like that, I'm just curious, what do you expect to do with all the information? What will you gain and loose? " Thats just is i don't know as yet but i could find out... The site that informs me though does seem very genuine and yes i have questioned it but its not consistent with any other religion i have come across. They sound very genuine in their offer they don't want money they offer information they have validations for every thing they preach. They believe that every thing has a scientific explanation and they prove all the points they make. and when questioned if father is there they said why don't u ask him your self. but this is for people who are serious and is said with a warning to do it with the up most respect. any more questions? or would u like me to clarify any thing i just spoke of? Father being ENKI / Satan's true name...
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Post by ethernal on Jul 19, 2005 18:00:56 GMT -5
It sounds like they are trying to prove how fake relegion is.....that makes no since to me. They are a relegion yet they prove against it. It sounds like a cult. Its interesting yes but I dont see why you should refer to someone as the father, I mean thats what im talking about with just another way to controll people. You may not have to pay money but if you belive in soul your paying with that. If satan is the supreme evil like most refer to his information will be only what you want to here as long as your loyal to him. In my opinion I would never refer to someone as a father to give me advice and tell me what I should know and belive in. Controll and persuation has many faces.. its your choice and i respec you are yourself, i just hope you can keep controll and you know when you should not do something. I had a friend satanist who got soo into it he started harming others because of it. I really dont want to see that happen to anyone else.
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Post by erishkigal on Jul 19, 2005 18:39:17 GMT -5
I think there's a limit to human understanding. A "just" god would realise none of us truly know what we want. Not everyone is willing to go beyond whatever religion mummy and daddy are so if there was one truth then not a lot of us would have access to peacefull afterlife. Which I guess for most people is a BIG part in chosing a religion. The after life I mean.
So really I guess I believe everyone will have right to paradise after death. Which as far as my understanding can percieve is nothing other than unconciousness.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 19, 2005 18:42:58 GMT -5
he doesnt tell you what is right he just offers an opinion there is no correct way he is just helping you. you dont have to seek his advice nore talk to him i found him he didnt come and say do this or else and plus any thing that you have heard has been enfluenced by lots of other things and is bias to other religions as what is said by a satanist is also bias. but if he was harming others he wasnt being true to him self he was exploiting his power or was this physical harm because i havent met any one else who uses this site apart from my friend but its jsut spiritual impowerment mostly is the focal point with a bit of a mediator if you need it. thats what this religion is all about... Respect and information.
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