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Post by Halo on Jul 19, 2005 19:41:56 GMT -5
they have validations for every thing they preach.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 19, 2005 20:24:18 GMT -5
Satan him self the big guy the "DARK Rebellious ANGEL" believe what you want, its a powerful feeling you get when you start dealing with these kind of things and the validations I'm talking about is the spiritual stuff like telekinesis and pyrokinesis and other various psychic abilities. like proving those things every thing else is just heresy but thats fine with me the people who made the web site High priestess Maxine De tress is just a mediator they are friendly and just offer a place for people with common beliefs and queries to communicate. They preach Knowledge is power and they are offering us Power so i thank them they have been helpful and friendly and don't ask any thing of me except respect of their ways and values.
and thanks halo i will continue to be careful i haven't delved into the worshiping or any thing like that. Your relationship with Satan is personal to each person and doesn't have to be solid it can be just like a mate having a yarn but with a bit more purpose than just a chat but yea you get the drift and i understand where your coming from but Ive been investigating and studying this religion for about 2 and a half years now and I'm still faithful to it so i would think that i would have at least sensed some thing by now
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Post by ethernal on Jul 25, 2005 20:52:38 GMT -5
I knew it. Well i dont mean for that to come out offensive lol. They offer power... that creates greed. You can learn psychic abilites from meditation and actual people..I dont think you need a preacher who wishes for power to teach you things. If everything is proven and such how can you belive in psychic abilities? I mean why do you want power? Every satanist relegion offers power... they offer it when your dead. Spend a lifetime doing as they wish and dedicating yourself to their practices and you gain power in hell. If you do refer to satan how can you trust those people? Satan was created by the followers of god and beleiving in Satan is beleiving in God there for you must know that no good can come out of Satan. If you want to get into spirituality you can simply become a budist or something similar istead of trying to gain power and prove everything wrong. Evil knows no emotions, it takes what it wants without reguard for anyones safety.
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Post by Halo on Jul 25, 2005 21:31:08 GMT -5
Satan him self the big guy the "DARK Rebellious ANGEL" believe what you want, its a powerful feeling you get when you start dealing with these kind of things I don't want to seem like I'm raggin on you, Ty. I'm not. I would just like to continue this conversation if you don't mind. If you'd rather we stay out of it, just say so and I'll respect that. But I think if you are going to open the can of worms, so to speak, you have expect some feedback. I have to agree with ethernal on the power issue. Why do you think you need this "dark angel" for power? Do you not know the power is within you to do whatever you want? This "religion" that you are in, to me, just seems like any other religion. A middle man selling you on made up beliefs. Making you believe you need this to gain power and strength. and the validations I'm talking about is the spiritual stuff like telekinesis and pyrokinesis and other various psychic abilities. like proving those things every thing else is just heresy but thats fine with me the people who made the web site High priestess Maxine De tress is just a mediator they are friendly and just offer a place for people with common beliefs and queries to communicate. Not sure what your meaning of spiritualism is, but to me it has more to do with the spirit and the soul and not things like pyrokinesis. They preach Knowledge is power and they are offering us Power so i thank them they have been helpful and friendly and don't ask any thing of me except respect of their ways and values. Bingo!! You just said the magic word. Preach. "They preach knowledge and power". They offer you power?? Ty, once again, the knowledge and power is in you already. Do you think you need them to give you "power"? and thanks halo i will continue to be careful i haven't delved into the worshiping or any thing like that. Your relationship with Satan is personal to each person and doesn't have to be solid it can be just like a mate having a yarn but with a bit more purpose than just a chat but yea you get the drift and i understand where your coming from but Ive been investigating and studying this religion for about 2 and a half years now and I'm still faithful to it so i would think that i would have at least sensed some thing by now Okay, I'm glad you are being careful, Ty. It's good to know that you have investigated and studied up on this religion. I don't care if you worship the devil or the tree in your backyard. I just don't want you to think that only through believing in this religion and listening to them that you will gain knowledge and power. I just want to make sure you believe in yourself first and foremost and know that you don't need a "preacher" to gain knowledge. And one last question: What kind of power are you looking for? What kind of power do they preach and "offer" you?
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 26, 2005 3:17:02 GMT -5
OK this power... but first i must refer to a while back i said validating i meant Justifying scientifically and in that i was referring to bio electricity control like using your energy with in you. and its not power to be greedy they are against that they say that. if you use powers for unconventional stuff you will be noticed eventually and get whats coming to you its more for protection and stuff but. They say that there is a war... this is the part i dint follow but its a war against the Christian god which they say is an Alien... the way they describe gods... hold on to your hats people. they say they are aliens which have genetically modified their DNA so they don't age. i believe that more so, makes sense. OK back to the power mambo jumbo. You were right H. in saying that the power is in you.. but i disagree that was have the knowledge every thing we know on this planet bar a few things is a learned trait and the powers are mealy laying dormant in our biddies. due to Christan suppression. and yes i could have Lent this stuff from any where like any other spiritual religion but this is a more suited environment to me like i don't want to creep up hierarchy in Buddhism or like i cant think of any other reasons for the other religions except its not me. but yes i could be wrong i could be doing the same thing as in Christianity with the false worship except that I'm not worshiping and the content is just there its not shoved down my throat, i my self have never spoken to any of the high priests as yet but my mate Tim asks questions of them some times. and we do need protection also from t he Grey's, Tims ex gf who is now an emo after becoming black metal while dating Tim then changing her mind after like shes changing shoes or something for the occasion. has been attacked by Grey's now because she delved into spirituality when she was with him then just ignored it after wards so then they could feel her presence and she left her self wide open. one day they will come and attack you can deny it all you want the Grey's are testing us by flying low ... testing our millitary... monitoring us ... our slow advancement. they know psychic abilities why cant we. i don't want to like get too deep into this with u but you have to believe me that you can use your bio electricity to do stuff with your mind... have you all seen the Parabola video clip the ending is the spiritual journey to god head... watch it these are the steps if i remember correctly
Telekinesis, *makes the leaf float. Prognosis *sets it On fire, Then it becomes the symbol for the charcras the Eye and goes and opens up the chacras in an odd order from toe to head. reveling the powerful aura that you get once all your chacras are open and working goes from the feet chacras to the root chacra awakening the KANDALINI *serpent of fire that lays dormant at the bottom of the spine which when rises creates awesome power and heat* travels up through 2 chacras *solar plexus and the other one in line with your stomach to the heart chacra which symbol is a lotus flower so they have it opening* moves up he notices his minor chacras *hands* and it goes out the throat chacra to the Clairvoyant ears opens them then goes back in to the third eye where they merge and the two colors of the eyes that merge create the unique color that is only seen when opening your throed eye kind of a violet but a bit lighter its an odd color* then it goes out the crown chacra into the higher chacras 1 - 7 or 8 the connection to the greater consciousness and there for reaching god head... thats just in the tool video clip... layed out rite there
*I would just like to add that every thing here about Christian conspiracy is just according to what i have read i haven't got any real prof apart from what i have read.. but going by the auras i feel around ministers and stuff... my friend Tim agrees with me that it feels something like running water but maybe more like a sludgy water...
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 26, 2005 3:22:59 GMT -5
Evil knows no emotions, it takes what it wants without reguard for anyones safety. ok every thing else is all fine in your opinion but think about this evil and whats evil is a learned thing WHO DO YOU THINK DEEMED SATANIC THINGS AND SATAN IN GENERAL "Evil" its a bias remark. every thing you have heard every bit of slander about this god has been bias we cant possably know taht it is true or false thats why i think jesus is evil... or god or the holy ghost or what ever u wanna call it fucken angles i dont care. its all a bias fight we cant and wont know until it all comes crashing down. but like bill hicks says... Lets say for a fact you know for a fact taht rock is the devils music ... AT LEAST HE FUCKEN JAMS... if its a choice for eturnity in hell and new kids on the fucken block ill be hangen ten on the lake of fire. its all what you have been told satan is the enemy christians use fear to drive you all away. we dont have numbers but a satanist is strong minded enough to be equivilant to 10 christians. im sorry but this was my choice.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 26, 2005 3:24:27 GMT -5
and in conclusion H. i don't do any thing evil or radical i just do a cleansing ritual before bed and some times spin my chacras. wheres the harm it that? its self protection. and spiritual cleanliness
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Post by ethernal on Jul 26, 2005 3:51:59 GMT -5
Interesting lol. I didnt mean to offend you about the evil thing, but what you are doing like many satanists is your taking something the christians CREATED and modifying it to your own personal needs. Thats what bugs me.. I mean why take some artwork someone else did and change it up a little so you like it then put it back on display taking all the credit? I dont see why we need energy to protect ourselves..There has been no proof what so ever that we are gonna be attack and we have to use psychic abilites. I really dont want to sound like a jerk right now because you are a really great guy and you seem really fun but how much of this stuff are you gonna swollow? You seem to belive everything they tell you... Also the ability to move things with your mind has always been false. People all over the world have tried to do it...have tried to find others who can do it...Ive read ALOT about it, i spent a year in witchcraft and they use alot more psychic energies then you know. If you can actualy tell me how to do some of this stuff and I can make it work ill belive you..but I will not take someones word that we can move thigns with our mind and summon flames. The aura thing however is true. Execpt you see the auras not feel them. You can train your mind to see certain glows of people...like red means the person has a burning desire for you and blue means the person has some calmness and sadness inside. Things like that. If we really all need psychic energy to protect ourselves we are all screwed. I mean think about it you knew none of this stuff before and nothing affected you or happend...so why all of the sudden just because someone says so do you need psychic poweres because we are all gonna be attacked? It realy seems these guys are living in more of a cult not releigion....they seem to belive in a fantasy world...but its just my opinion.... How can you say a satanist is equal to 10 christians? there is a huge problem with that right there. Since you have so called power and you think you know so much more then everyone else your better minded?
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Post by erishkigal on Jul 26, 2005 7:29:33 GMT -5
I believe there is a certain limit to humans understandings.
We are all too influenced what others say, what is happening in the world, our immediate surroundings to be able to make a perfect idea on what lies beyond our pysical existance as we deem to be reality.
People in countries with high living standard (as far as I know all of us here) live in a certain decadence and comfort that striving for merely survival is no longer an issue and if we want to live then we can.
Because of that all we are left to do is ponder what else there is. We want more. All the thought that goes into religion builds up layers and layers of doubt in peoples minds.
The void of having a struggle to survive creates a void in our minds where we have to struggle for mental stability and emotional solace. Humans can not live in pure positivity and if we dont have pysical struggle it turns to mental struggle and I believe that is what religion is to western society.
I in no way doubt the existance of God, but I believe all of us are right and wrong. If there is a god, and "heaven or hell" in fact exist, I think we are all going to heaven. I mean, if God is just then what of people who have no chance to learn of the "correct faith" needed to gain access to paradise.
Most people dont have the guts to break out of whatever religion their parents were anyway. So what of these?
I guess in ways I am an existentialist/ Nihilist. (im aware that to be a nihilist you would deny the existance of God but im special so nya nya)
On another point. The whole "anti christian" thing. There are many reasons to be anti christian. It is seen as the raging force in all supression and censorship.
Some people feel empowered and more special being anti christian because they are "apart from the herd" this Ego concious nature exists in every person and that is the nature of humans existance.
Religion is not the cause of suffering. People are the cause of suffering. We cant live without suffering, famine and war. The difference between A and B is the nature of existance. (and A and B is the general perception of negativity and positivity)
Every single human being in the world is a degenerate power whore, possesed by putrid inner ugliness and genetic decadence. What we all want is happiness and we gain it by convincing ourselfs "life/god/the universe" has been more generous to us. We convince ourselfs this by enjoying the suffering of others.
Hence the miracle of life!
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Post by ethernal on Jul 26, 2005 10:09:47 GMT -5
.....smart ass.... lol im just kidding erishkigal.. Wow though, that was very very interesting to read and yes was very very true I belive. Maybe we are limited...I choose to belive that on the outside we are limited yes but I belive the mind and soul has all the power and intellegence someone will ever need. I belive inside you can unlock parts of your brain and soul that were never ment to be shown. Maybe, somehow people can discover the essance of creation. I dont know im blabbing lol. One thing I have to say though I really dont belive that everyone is power hungary. I would give everything I have up... I swear this to I would give it all away to know I could live a simple life....to know I could live without worry or care.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 26, 2005 20:23:50 GMT -5
Interesting lol. I didnt mean to offend you about the evil thing, but what you are doing like many satanists is your taking something the christians CREATED and modifying it to your own personal needs. Thats what bugs me.. I mean why take some artwork someone else did and change it up a little so you like it then put it back on display taking all the credit? I dont see why we need energy to protect ourselves..There has been no proof what so ever that we are gonna be attack and we have to use psychic abilites. I really dont want to sound like a jerk right now because you are a really great guy and you seem really fun but how much of this stuff are you gonna swollow? You seem to belive everything they tell you... Also the ability to move things with your mind has always been false. People all over the world have tried to do it...have tried to find others who can do it...Ive read ALOT about it, i spent a year in witchcraft and they use alot more psychic energies then you know. If you can actualy tell me how to do some of this stuff and I can make it work ill belive you..but I will not take someones word that we can move thigns with our mind and summon flames. The aura thing however is true. Execpt you see the auras not feel them. You can train your mind to see certain glows of people...like red means the person has a burning desire for you and blue means the person has some calmness and sadness inside. Things like that. If we really all need psychic energy to protect ourselves we are all screwed. I mean think about it you knew none of this stuff before and nothing affected you or happend...so why all of the sudden just because someone says so do you need psychic poweres because we are all gonna be attacked? It realy seems these guys are living in more of a cult not releigion....they seem to belive in a fantasy world...but its just my opinion.... How can you say a satanist is equal to 10 christians? there is a huge problem with that right there. Since you have so called power and you think you know so much more then everyone else your better minded? Firstly regarding this first message. im not angrey no matter how it sounds on the net. but the fact that its on the net makes it harder to get the point across and yes i believe most of what they say because there is reason for every thing though im not following as blindly as you think i guess but no i am not able to move thingswith my mind and im not able to set things on fire but there is an untaped energy that is there i know it. you know the stories you hear about every day people doing un believe able things in trying situations like a man lifting a bus off an injoured woman from sheer will power. most people whouldnt even try but if you really wanted to move that bus and think you could, it can happen. its those kind of things. and yes i believe we will be under attack. according to whats been happening theres been lots of sightings... and the thing i was talking about the other day my friends ex gf awoke at 3 am to an invisible force holding her head down. with such pressure that she was unconscious soon after she awoke totaly drained and feeling like crap she had been attacked.. personaly i think it was a grey drainingher energy because her chacras had been left open. but it could have been any thing. I dont believe christians created it. not traditional satanism you probably think this because of Anton la Vey who just patented satanism as an actual religion... i dont believe in his teachings. i belive they are false and pointless but thats just me.
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 26, 2005 20:31:29 GMT -5
And why do you believe every thing in the bible? Its very unbelieve able and it all like has a twist to it. Bill hicks raised a great point against the christians... Explain Dinosaurs. the misiter he was talking to or who ever it was who was high up in the religion replied with something along the lines of. Oh god just put them there to test our faith. right bill goes on to say... im pictureing this prankster god hopping around digging holes going "we'll see who believes in me now" *burys bone* *Taps soil* he he he. and can we have single questions theres too much to deconstruct
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Post by ethernal on Jul 27, 2005 16:26:37 GMT -5
Hmnm, well you have explained it more clearly now. So im begging to see it differently. I dont belive in the bible though, its just satanizm was NEVER around or even herd of until satan was mentioned in the bible. About that power thing that I think is true...if you really need to at a certain time sometimes things really strange do happen. How can you say its not some other force though? I remember a couple years ago... I was in minnestoa and there was a huge rivir wich was a powerplant and if you fell in you would be sucked under and crushed in the undercurrent. Well it was really snowy and a huge chunk of the river was frozen and my dog had fallen in. I stood and watched as she has sunked under then i ran out into the ice wich couldnt have been thicker then an inch, kneeled down and pull her out. That whole time the ice should have broken...it should have broken way before that... and yet it didnt. I dont think its becasue I caused it not to break but maybe because someone was protecting me. I dont belive in god or angles but I do belive in spirits. One thing i am curious about is why out of soooo many people, websites, and many sources of information is it just these followers of this form of satanizm who see these "aliens" who attack others?
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Post by Demonic) 66Ty6 (Darkness on Jul 27, 2005 18:24:41 GMT -5
thats good because i believe that too and look up a god called Ea... known as the sun god by egyptians. that is satan... but yea. no i think that aliens are just like thinking they are superiour to us humans thats all so they are learning from us as we want to learn from them but we are less evolved so they are just learning about us as humans not what we have discovered. thats a really nice story about your dog i dont doubt that there was something there eh. to night ill get on the site and ill post what they say they are all about. because i dont wanna go on it at school as i go to a christian private school. so yea. ummm trying to think of another point i can bring up. oh ok umm satanism was drowned out i think that the church was very over powering in the blame game saying bringing evil and all that into it burning people thought to be whitches and stuff in the 1700's and so on but also all the old libraryies were burnt down as they said that every thing is fiction and is rubbish and so all the old texts were lost and every one was not as knowlege able their forethey couldnt make their own choices because they just acepted what they were told. so i think they church has degenerated a fair bit of society and also the fall of the roman empire was another degeneration when they killed all the scientists and all the important people back then i think we would have been much further in our evolution if it wernt for that. but then again we probably would have been ruled by romans and would have been slaves oh well.
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Post by ethernal on Jul 29, 2005 4:06:45 GMT -5
hmm, I dont think romans would have stayed in power long anyways. If they did they sure wouldnt have been able to get here. Look at all the new countries and their power, its hard to belive the romans were so powerfull for as small as they were. So all the info was lost because of the burnings and such, but there has to be SOME remians. I dont think these people can keep an eye on the world 24/7 and know every single person. So if all this is true lets say that all of it would mean every relegion is wrong. If there are aliens far more evolved then ourselves they must have been around alot longer. So there for they know the secrets of how we became. Oh yeah btw in your relegion how does it say we came to be on earth? Also what do you believe happens when you die?
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